Once upon a time, Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com> said:
Is there any reasonable way to tell these ORBS and MAPS losers "possibly good intentions, but so badly run that: no thanks" from the net administrator community.
MAPS people are not "losers" IMHO. They don't actively scan for problem hosts; they only check a host _after_ a supposed spam has been relayed through a host. As for ORBS: I have had several customers with open relays lately (which they've shut as soon as we notified them). A couple of them used our primary mail server as a smarthost, so ORBS listed it as well. In each case, ORBS failed to notify us of the listing at all. We only found out when our customers had mail blocked at servers using ORBS. If it is okay for them to scan our hosts and not notify us, I guess it would be okay for me to write a script that continuously looks up each IP address allocated to us in the ORBS lists so I can know when there is a problem. -- Chris Adams <cmadams@hiwaay.net> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Information Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.