On 9/6/12, Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> wrote:
Owen DeLong wrote:
You're demanding an awful lot of changes to the entire internet to All that necessary is local changes on end systems of those who want the end to end transparency.
Achieving "end to end", and breaking interoperability while introducing a level of complexity and points of failure that noone will accept, is no good. I refer you back to RFC1925 number (6). If you had to modify the implementation on endpoints that want to communicate end-to-end, then by definition you don't have transparency. The inability to communicate end-to-end with unmodified endpoints makes it non-transparent, and is itself a break of the principle. UPnP is not robust enough either for the suggested application. The RFC3102 you mention doesn't have acceptance; the concept of RSIP was not proven tenable, that it actually works or scales and can be implemented reliably with real applications on real networks in the first place. Achieving true 'end to end' with such a scheme would require alterations to many protocol standards which didn't happen, and there would be many interoperability breaks.
There is no changes on the Internet. Masataka Ohta
-- -JH