Even the private, behind the scenes, allocations made by the IANA, such as the @Home allocation which was not made based on SWIP information. How could it be? They did not even have customers, just a lot of venture capital and the "right" people on their staff. Regardless of whether the skids were greased on this allocation, the result is the right way to go.. As a definite outsider to all this, it looks like much of 24/8 has been given out in /16../14 sized chunks to various cable operators, with lots of space in between them (some of them have room to expand to a /10 or /11...). I already know at least two people who already have ip-over-catv internet access, from two different providers, in two different states. I know of at least that many just in my town alone who are likely to sign up the first day it's available (real soon now, they keep saying...).. The cable companies *do* have customers; they aren't IP customers (yet), but they *are* customers, and no doubt the cable providers have been able to demonstrate how many of their customers already have computers and access to the internet via modem and are thus realistic customers for the ip-over-cable system.. - Bill