With all due respect, without sharing NDA protected information about the specific quantity and model numbers of FS switches I have personal experience with in a certain network, there are very valid reasons to have significant concerns about the stability and feature set of the operating system that ships on them.

There is a reason they are abnormally cheap, in exactly the same way that FS transceivers which are literally the cheapest 1Gbps and 10Gbps OOK optics you can "Add to cart" and buy online are the cheapest transceivers you can buy on the market.

But by all means please go ahead and use FS switches for all the layer 2 aggregation needs in your network if you think that they meet your needs. I'm not stopping you.

If an ISP has a serious enough need for a large quantity of whitebox switches based on known switch-chip vendors' ASICs I would encourage them to send staff with experience in the electronics manufacturing industry to every year's Computex Taipei and speak with the manufacturers in person.





On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 at 11:39, Saku Ytti <saku@ytti.fi> wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 at 21:21, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:

> To paraphrase someone else, I would highly recommend that all my competition use Fiberstore switches. This is based on direct experience with them.

Of course you're not telling anything at all here. I know plenty of
very happy fs customers, and plenty of disappointed. And you can
replace fs with anything at all, and it remains true. Nothing of value
was said.

Very few have statistically useful experience to share just about
anything, just anecdotes, and every single company regularly has poor
customer interactions. We regularly extrapolate a lot of information
from a single anecdote. This is like old men discussing in petrol
station which car brands are great and which suck, which is always
near 0 signal information, if you start to apply any type of formality
to it, like start looking at MOT statistics, you will find, yeah maybe
there are some signals, maybe Toyota is good, but at the same time you
will notice, well I can pick really bad Toyota, if I pick specific
model + model year (next or previous model year of same model might be
again great).

I have more respect for your competitors' ability to procure than this.

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