Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh

David said:* Gotta watch out for specifying T1 when you want Ethernet- they could just give you 4 wires on pins 1,2,4,5 :)* I think Patrick was thinking back in the days when Ethernet was just two pairs. You could get away with a lot on 10BaseT, I've even used dry telco pairs between buildings when I was in a tight spot. Nice clean T1 pairs through at DSX panel was quite common before we had fancy things like fiber meet-me-rooms. SIX started with midnight cable runs in the drop ceiling. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, +1 (360) 474-7474