I've used HE's tunnelbroker (BGP) a few times to get our ARIN space to a site while waiting on a local carrier to turn up v6, get the proper LOA, etc. I've received better service from the NOC there for a service I didn't pay for than I have from any ISP I've ever given money. They are doing a great job over there. A LOA change (/48-->/40 le 48) took about an hour. Spencer Ryan | Senior Systems Administrator | sryan@arbor.net<mailto:sryan@arbor.net> Arbor Networks +1.734.794.5033 (d) | +1.734.846.2053 (m) www.arbornetworks.com<http://www.arbornetworks.com/> ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Ken Chase <math@sizone.org> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:51:51 AM To: Jason Lixfeld Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: charges for prefix filter updates (was Re: Any ISPs using AS852 for IP Transit?) Followup: we did the quote/PO/sign-the-order dance. That took about 3-4 days not including our side's lag (which was not insignificant, Im not the guy with the pen). But now it's gone to provisioning and will be a standard *5 days*. Cogent will do this in about 1-6 hours if you provide the LOA's with the request. So will HE. And many others. /kc On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 02:28:50PM -0400, Ken Chase said:
I feel this can be a public topic:
Rogers just charged us that for an update (one update, multiple entries). We had to go through their quotation machinery too, took like 4-5 days. Additional time was wasted because we contacted their tech dept directly at the start. (which is what I do for all my other upstreams...)
Kinda brutal.
Cogent and HE nor NAC or Yipes or Tata ever did that to us.
Nickle and diming -- why, cuz transit is a cheap commodity now, gotta make the cash somewhere?
That said Cogent offered us a static /26 along side our BGP years ago then warned us it'd be $50/mo or something for that # of ips going forward. We didnt need it so dispensed with it.
/kc
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 02:07:01PM -0400, Jason Lixfeld said:
If there are any ISPs who use TELUS/AS852 for IP Transit over BGP, I???d be interested in hearing from you.
I???d like to compare notes to see if you are also paying $250 for each BGP prefix filter updated request, or if we???re the only ones???
Thanks in advance!
-- Ken Chase - math@sizone.org Toronto Canada