Kevin Oberman wrote:
Randy is right that eliminating tunnels does not make all of the IPv6 problems go away. It just eliminates the ones caused by the use of tunnels. The REAL problems are not going anywhere for a long time, it ever.
It would be nice to see some evidence of some forward motion but I don't see any. The vendors seem to point at a lack of demand and the ISPs claim a lack of support from the vendors and/or not customer demand. If the ISPs tried to deploy it for themselves then perhaps this current impasse could be broken and the current shortcomings would then have some visibility with the vendors and that might encourage the IETF to address the real issues. A quick look at some of the usual suspects shows not much consumption of their own dog food. <http://www.mrp.net/ISP.html> although the R&E community isn't much better <http://www.mrp.net/Internet2.html>. Mark.