credit where due department:
i was merely channeling a position sean doran has taken for many years
Sorry, I have hear that argument from you in past nanogs, and on this list for some time. I will correct my source....
and, while we have a non-op message o after five years, i graduated from verio a couple of months ago, and am now at at&t doing research and architecture
Congratulations then may be in order. I noticed the change in some postings and the URL that you sent, but am taken aback that you changed from the hectic world to a more calm and slower pace setting of research. (That is the natural opinion... hehehe)
o i suspect the nanog thread regarding which backbones have native multicast enabled may be inaccurate. but it's good to see new folk exploring the technology
Could not agree more, there are several native multicast backbones and we interact with several as well. Most of our multicast traffic is not multimedia, but actually science data to researchers.
o the folk most interested in revising the meaning of "tier-1" are usually those who are not
Not sure as to if that applies to this thread or my former comments, but I tend to agree :-)
o the kiddies are out for the summer nothing constructive to do, so are impersonating net operators on aim, phone, etc. so verify cold calls, aim, etc.
Again not sure as to implication, but my messages to this list with this address are personal in nature. I have the experience of running several regional ISPs (not teir-1, but large non the less. Kinda like Verio some time back...) and currently running NASA's IP networks (WAN not the hosts).
o ipv6, mpls, and diffserve-enabled backbones will solve all your problems
Sounds like you researchers have all the answers, so when will it be enabled and resove all our problems? Will we not have a new set of problems, or has something changed that resolves those as well? Again, congratulations, if you are happy, on you move from the commerical sector to the research side.