On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Joe Shen wrote:
Could IPtables control traffic with inspecting layer7 information?
Not layer 7. IPtables works on L3 & L4 (and another similar system for linux called ebtables provides filtering at L2) but it can be used for setting up qos depending on where from (and to) the traffic is going and what port is being used. For layer7 filtering on linux you need protocol proxies, and you can use iptables to redirect all http traffic from subnet to squid (although its not designed to be a filter, it can be used to implement L7 filtering for http, but I'm not sure it can be used for prioritization though).
As someone suggested, bandwidth allocation could be done with TCP protocol control ( ACK dropping or so); How can we do that? NBAR only limit the bandwidth, and to our experience with cisco7609 it cost a lot of cpu time!
Where can I find QoS experiemnt result and sample configuration of ERX14xx?
Joe
--- Ejay Hire <ejay.hire@isdn.net> wrote:
Hello.
Going back to your original question, how to keep from saturating the network with residential users using bittorrent/edonkey et al, while suffocating business customers. Here goes.
Netfilter/IpTables (and a slew of commercial products I'm sure) has a Layer 7 traffic classifier, meaning it can identify specific file transfer applications and set a DiffServ bit. This means it can tell between a real http request and a edonkey transfer, even if they are both using http. It also has rate-limiting capability. So... If you pass all of the traffic destined for your DSL customers through an iptables box (single point of failure) then you can classify and rate-limit the downstream rate on a per-application basis.
Fwiw, if you are using diffserv bits, you could push the rate-limits down to the router with a qos policy in it instead of doing it all in the iptables box.
References on this.. The netfilter website (for classification info) and the Linux advanced router tools (LART) (qos info/rate limiting)
-e
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Kim Onnel Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 3:26 AM To: NANGO Subject: Re: QoS for ADSL customers
Can any one please suggest to me any commercial or none solution to cap the download stream traffic, our upstream will not recieve marked traffic from us, so what can be done ?
On 11/29/05, Kim Onnel <karim.adel@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,
We have Juniper ERX as BRAS for ADSL, its GigE interface is on an old Cisco 3508 switch with an old IOS, its gateway to the internet is a 7609, our transit internet links terminate on GigaE, Flexwan on the 7600
The links are now almost always fully utilized, we want to do some QoS to cap our ADSL downstream, to give room for the Corp. customers traffic to flow without pain.
I'm here to collect ideas, comments, advises and experiences for such situations.
Our humble approach was to collect some p2p ports and police traffic to these ports, but the traffic wasnt much,
one other thing is rate-limiting per ADSL customers IPs, but that wasnt supported by management, so we thought of matching ADSL www traffic and doing exceed action is transmit, and police other IP traffic.
Doing so on the ERX wasnt a nice experience, so we're trying to do it on the cisco.
Thanks