I am looking at the possibility of leasing a ~70 mile run of fiber. I don't have access to any mid point section for regeneration purposes, and so I am wondering what the chances that a 120km rated SFP would be able to
path and provide stable connectivity. There are a lot of unknowns including # of splices, condition of the cable, or the actual dispersion index or other properties (until we actually get closer to leasing it). Its spare telco fibers in the same cable binder they are using interoffice
If you only want 1gig, then if the SP provides it, won't it be cheaper to simply get a 1gig circuit from them that hands off to you on a GigE port rather than pay for all the various higher spec equipment that you'd otherwise require? Paul. -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Hodle [mailto:kevin.hodle@gmail.com] Sent: 02 January 2010 23:36 To: Mike Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Mike <mike-nanog@tiedyenetworks.com> wrote: light the transport,
but there are regen huts along the way so it works for them but may not for us, and 'finding out' is potentially expensive. How would someone experienced go about determining the feasibillity of this concept and what options might there be? Replies online or off would be appreciated.
I second the recommendation that you request OTDR traces from whomever you are leasing the glass from, and further request traces for each strand in *both* directions (a end to z end, z end to a end) at multiple wavelengths, say 1530nm-1640nm at a maximum of 200GHz wavelength spacing to properly identify potential problem locations in the future when you want to build out a 10GE metro DWDM solution (You really do want to know about that old mechanical splice 20km into your run, etc). An OTDR will provide you with granular loss/gain event details for your entire span, while a power meter/light source will only tell you your overall span loss. While your fiber provider may not pony up OTDR results until after you've executed the contract, they should be able to give you a rough estimate of the total loss (in dB for a 1550nm signal) for the span you are looking at leasing, and you can build provisions into your contract that enforce an absolute maximum loss on the span, in which case the provider will be forced to take necessary actions to replace old poorly executed splices with fusion splices, isolate and correct bends, etc. As most have pointed out - EDFA should not be required for a 1GE single channel solution, and probably would not be required for a simple 1GE CWDM setup either. Once you graduate to an active 10GE DWDM solution EDFA's will be more of a necessity (possibly with dispersion compensation, depending on your vendor this may be an entirely separate shelf module or may be build into the amp card). The addition of EDFA's in a multi-channel solution also adds complexity (if you want to build a scalable/cost effective solution). Most EDFA's have a maximum and minimum per-channel input power, and ideally you would want to have each channel near the same power level before hitting the EDFA. Depending on your gear, topological complexity, etc this may require the use of an optical spectrum analyzer to verify individual channel power levels so the correct amount of attenuation can be added to each channel before it hits the EDFA, however for a single point to point span this will probably not be a concern. -- Cheers, Kevin ================================================================ Kevin Hodle | http://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinhodle PGP Key ID | fingerprint 0x803F24BE | 1094 FB06 837F 2FAB C86B E4BE 4680 3679 803F 24BE "Elegance is not a dispensable luxury but a factor that decides between success and failure. " -Edsgar Dijkstra ================================================================ For more information about the Viatel Group, please visit www.viatel.com VTL (UK) Limited Registered in England and Wales Registered Address: Inbucon House, Wick Road, Egham, Surrey TW20 0HR Company Registration No: 04287100 VAT Registration Number: 781 4991 88 THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INTENDED RECIPIENT TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited, and you should delete this e-mail from your system. This message has been scanned for viruses and spam by Viatel MailControl - www.viatel.com