I'm probably going to regret posting this but I think most of this dispute regarding Jon Postel's advice revolves around how the words "liberal" and "conservative" have changed over 20 years. Liberal used to mean adaptable, open-minded, and conservative used to mean cautious and hewing close to the rules (and I mean none of that disparagingly.) <IGNORE> I won't begin to characterize how these words have changed but, um, ach, phffft, AGHHH!...they didn't mean calling your personal prostitute a "horseface" or arguing that point via the public internet. </IGNORE> -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*