-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 As some of you may know, my primary job these days is tracking down Bad Guys (tm), identifying threats, etc. But enough of that. One of my primary concerns has been, unsuccessfully, engaging the networking community. Why is that? This "issue" is not imagined, nor is it a scare tactic -- it has, for lack of a better analogy, grown in proportions only proportional to the lack of engagement from ISPs. ISPs have really, really been absent from the discussion, for various reasons. Is this a topic that the NANOG community would like to discuss in a serious manner? I'm just curious, because I'm considering submitting a "lightning talk" at the upcoming San Jose NANOG, just to gauge & present some of the major issues that we are seeing that could really use your assistance. Any input? - - ferg p.s. Oh, highly recommended video short (bigger bonus: Marcus Ranum cameo): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5zxOLZ5jXM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.6.3 (Build 3017) wj8DBQFHheNKq1pz9mNUZTMRArb7AJ0ePkj+8rc88Z9V/3DP5OmnFvgdYgCeKSIa aqw3Qj3Kdl47LZqpjrdk/0E= =Iray -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(at)netzero.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/