Dropping everything at once may dilute the debate as I am sure your government and every other government that may be proved to be involved will try to focus the discussion on small and less damaging issues until the bigger ones are forgotten. Reveal something, wait a few weeks/months, reveal something else may keep the debate open for longer time and at some point maybe enough critical mass is attained where something can be achieved. On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Warren Bailey < wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
I don't think the conversation is based around the method by which information is intercepted. I hope the conversation is aligned with its reasoning for disclosure - the American people stopping a government who is known for abusing it's power. Obviously this does not mean physically stopping them, but I imagine most people know what motivates their state and national political officials. I still wonder why Mr. Snowden hasn't dropped more damaging information, it would seem his sworn enemy has made their feelings somewhat clear.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> Date: 07/15/2013 7:34 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:45:26 -0500, Aaron Wendel said:
We (ISPs) are all compelled to provide information from time to time under a court order. The PRISM program is voluntary.
Ask the ex-CEO of Qwest how "voluntary" that sort of stuff is.
it REALLY depends on what 'prisim' is... seen in one light, the program is 'just' isp/asp people who agree to permit FISA requests to be satisfied via: "scp files from fisa.isp.net with key fingerprint 0xasdasdasd"
of course, the other way to read it (as the news would like us to believe) is as: "plug nsa ethernet into eth1 of all servers and routers, kthxbi!"
more details would certainly make this whole conversation less alamist and more rational. -chris