In message <199810010127.SAA16555@condor.lvrmr.mhsc.com>, "Roeland M.J. Meyer" writes:
At 06:35 PM 9/30/98 -0400, Steven J. Sobol wrote:
On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 04:19:44PM -0500, Jeremy Porter wrote:
Not that I would advocate such activity, but unless there exists an extradition treaty that allows for computer trespass or denial of service attacks, I imagine that a few weeks of being hacked and DoS attacks would have them reconsidering the fee's that they charge to spam houses.
I hope you're kidding.
This statement is an order of magnitude dumber than anything Barry's contributed to this thread.
Agreed! SPAM-L has determined, over years of operation (including getting CyberPromo busted out of Agis), that the most effective policy is reasonable complaint, followed by blackholing (a la RBL). Any "Cracker" or DoS attacks simply open you up for criminal charges and actually place the spam-haus in a favorable light wrt LEOs. They then become the "oh so innocent and helpless" victim. Also, there are a lot of TO SLDs that aren't spam-hauses. The normal SPAM complaint process to their upstream providers usually does the trick, regardless of what domain they're in.
So what you are saying is that Barry has a perfectly functional method of dealing with the problem and all the rest of this is a complete and utter waste of our time. Mr Sobol's comments doubly so, as they add no new information. --- Jeremy Porter, Freeside Communications, Inc. jerry@fc.net PO BOX 80315 Austin, Tx 78708 | 512-458-9810 http://www.fc.net