I’m jumping on an earlier part of the thread.

 

Based on what I heard at the Members Meeting and several follow up hallway conversations, I think:

 

Other thoughts, which I couldn’t submit in a survey or find another way to send to the board or staff:

 

 

This can’t all be done in time for Kansas City, but maybe some of it can be. Given that hotel contracts are negotiated two years in advance, I figure we have about two years to get this right before it’s too late to steer the ship away from the rocks.

 

Let me close with: I think we have an excellent board, all of whom love this community and have spent years thinking about this. The lack of a CEO is a problem soon to be resolved, and that will help support the already excellent staff. There are themes we’ve been hearing for several meetings in a row, and I know the board is giving them a lot of thought, and I’m just trying to support those efforts from outside the board.

 

Maybe this should have gone to the members mailing list, but I couldn’t find one.

 

Lee

 

 

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Subject: Re: NANOG 90 Attendance?

 

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On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 8:31 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:

I haven't been to a NANOG meeting in a while. While going through the attendee list for NANOG 90 to try to book meetings with people, I noticed a lack of (or extremely minimal) attendance by several organizations that have traditionally had several employees attend. I've also noticed that some organizations I had an interest in were only sending sales people, not technical people.

 

 

There have been a few changes - part of this is driven by post-pandemic decreased travel budget in many organizations, part by industry changes and consolidation, but also a fair bit seems to be because the tone of NANOG has changed and become much more of a polished, sales-y feeling event than it used to be….

 

Here is the current NANOG agenda: 

 

Here is the agenda from 20 years ago:

 

This time I've received at least 6 phone calls along this line of "Hi, I'm [person] from [company]. We are a NANOG sponsor and we'd like to personally invite you to a very special [breakfast/lunch/dinner] with our [CEO/CTO]. They'd love to explain how we can solve your [security/inventory/DDoS/automation/documentation] needs…" 

 

There would alway be business stuff done at NANOG, but it used to be more along the lines of "Hey, we have too much traffic in [location]. I saw you have a cage in [location] too… If I hand you an Ethernet, can we peer there? Great…" or "So, I have a Foozle-1205 with the Turbo-forwarding(R) option, but when I configure hyperspace-bypass mode, fire comes out…. I know you also use Turbo-forwarding(R), but it looks like you still have your eyebrows. Any hints? Oh… cool, I didn't know that you could use wormholes to avoid the hyperspace issue. Ta."

 

W

 

How long has this been a thing?

I remember when I attended years ago that there simply wasn't enough time to meet with technical people from all of the organizations I wanted to meet with. Now the calendar is looking a bit dry.

 



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