We passed the hat around. We came up with a battered copy of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, a mini-maglite, and a bag of Orville Riddenbacher Popcorn (only partially popped and scorched - the rest is usable). How much will that buy? K :: -----Original Message----- :: From: Chris Davis [mailto:chris.davis@computerjobs.com] :: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 2:35 PM :: To: 'David Schwartz' :: Cc: nanog@merit.edu :: Subject: RE: I've just tried new.net's plugin. Don't. :: :: :: :: HOWDY! HOWDY! :: :: I AM SELLING I.P. ADDRESSES! :: ARIN HAS HELD THEM FOR "PRIVATE" USE TOO LONG! WHO DO THEY :: THINK THEY ARE? :: NOBODY IS USING THEM ON THE INTERNET! :: :: BARGAIN PRICES! CASH ONLY!!!! :: :: 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 :: 172.16.0.0 - 172.32.255.255 :: 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 :: :: RESERVE YOURS NOW! GOING FAST! :: :: :: :: :: :: -----Original Message----- :: From: David Schwartz [mailto:davids@webmaster.com] :: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 5:12 PM :: To: Stephen J. Wilcox :: Cc: Jeff Workman; Chris Davis; nanog@merit.edu :: Subject: RE: I've just tried new.net's plugin. Don't. :: :: :: :: :: > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, David Schwartz wrote: :: > :: > > Did you know that you can choose which nameservers you use? :: > > And you can :: > > continue to use the same nameservers no matter what :: provider you use. :: > :: > Why do nanog threads always repeat themselves fifty times :: before they die? :: :: Because people don't read what other people write. :: :: > Not wishing to repeat myself either but.. :: > :: > Why is choice so important to you? :: :: Who said it was? I'm just saying that it's unreasonable :: for you to :: complain :: about me having a choice. :: :: > OK, I just created Wilcox's law of customer support.. :: > :: > this states that for every choice you give users the :: number of potential :: > problems increases proportianally. :: :: Then don't give your users the choice. See, no problem. :: :: > You give them different operating systems, different :: browsers, different :: > providers now you give them different DNS roots.. :: > :: > You just doubled the number of ways in which a (dumb) home :: user can break :: > their systems and get all confused over why when they just :: installed the :: > new Opal Internet software all the web pages they are used :: to using are :: > different... :: :: Then don't give your customers that choice. Nobody is :: forcing you :: to. :: :: > simple to me, you and everyone on this list, but to a :: (dumb) home user :: > thats 15 minutes to explain the problem, 15 minutes to :: discuss the details :: > of the DNS system and 15 minutes to once again explain how :: this affects :: > them because they dont understand a word you are saying and cant :: > understand why typing in www.yahoo.com now resolves to a porn site! :: > :: > Following me so far? Sure, you are free to choose, very :: good have the :: > "land of the free" feeling of excitement. But I'm :: suggesting its a really :: > bad thing to make this decision for people who are not :: going to understand :: > this and cause all of us nice people problems. :: :: If giving your customers a choice causes you a :: headache, then don't :: give :: them a choice. If you are selling them unfiltered Internet :: access, then give :: them that. If you give them flat-rate support, then give :: them that. If you :: don't support some services, then don't. :: :: DS ::