On 9 Dec 2021, at 1:57 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com<mailto:randy@psg.com>> wrote: ... as i do not follow arin news, i found this even more interesting The situation for ARIN’s IPv4/IPv6 customers will change in January, when all customers with IPv4 and/or IPv6 number resources will pay on the same fee table for ARIN registry services and will all be ARIN Members and will all have the opportunity to participate in ARIN governance if they wish. is arin going to a flat rate scheme from scaled while ripe is contemplating going from flat to scaled? Not quite - we’ve always had an “ISP” fee schedule that is proportional to total number resource holdings. In ARIN’s case, ours is based on the highest Registration Services Plan (RSP) category that covers both IPv4 and IPv6 resources held. The specific table is here - https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/2022_fee_schedule/ - and start with annual fees of $250 per year for smallest category and then increase by a factor of two with each 4x increase in total IPv4 number resources held (or each 16x increase in IPv6 resources) The 2022 fee change is moving the end-users from a flat per-block maintenance fee structure to the same scaled fee structure (i.e. the RSP fee categories) that our ISPs have been paying for years. i would be the proverbial fly on the wall if/when you and hans petter exchange lessons learned. You’re unlikely to ever get such a chance, as those conversations don’t happen (they wouldn’t be particularly appropriate due to the risk of depriving the community of the diversity of thought and pricing independence to which it is entitled…) Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers