I guess I should say that most people are outsourcing to the bigger news shops (at least the people I know are) due to the hardware demands of today's news volumes. john :) -----Original Message----- From: Jeroen Massar [mailto:jeroen@unfix.org] Sent: Tue 9/5/2006 4:10 PM To: John van Oppen Cc: deepak@ai.net; Drew Weaver; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: NNTP feed. John van Oppen wrote:
we don't run one either... :)
The last person I know who was running one, was in the proccess of killing it.
Apparently you found some people killing it off, while there are actually companies who specialize in NNTP access. It seems that for mysterious reasons which the RIAA and other such organizations apparently don't seem to understand that these companies are also causing quite a lot of traffic to be shifted over the internet. Peeking at for instance http://www.nextfeed.nl/ reveals that there is one ISP having 40 days retention which apparently maps to 6*50 TB (that is 300 Terabytes indeed) of storage space, while there are also another having 50 days of retention, most likely mapping to somewhat like 400 Tb. On average they seem to be shifting in the vicinity of 15Tb/day though, looking at the number 14 of the top1000.org list. For hardware freaks it of course gives some nice things like the dutch newszilla installation: http://wa.ter.net/gallery2/images/newszilla That single setup already makes quite some small hosting companies drool out of both corners ;) Networking freaks will love the "Core Juniper 640 handles newszilla traffic" comment <grin> Otherwise said: if you are setting up a full-nntp-feed capable box, you'll have to dig nice and deep into that money bag but on the other hand there seems to be loads of people doing a lot of posting and reading, where else would the volume of that traffic come from? For the people trying to find peers, check: http://www.usenet.com/peering/peeringpage.cfm and of course also: http://www.top1000.org/ where even google pops up in a 4th place. Greets, Jeroen