At 15:24 15/05/98 -0700, Ben Kirkpatrick wrote:
I believe this is why they cut off public access. The NIC was flooded with requests for domains that had just been deleted. People were hoping to make a buck. If you have a _legitimate_ need for zone file access, you will get it. I certainly had no problem after the NIC figured out their internal policy for granting access.
Hmm: (a) *If* this is considered undesirable - draw up a charter and say so to avoid anyone from using it for these purposes (why should someone else be allowed to do this because they claimed/had a "legitimate" reasons "as well"). (b) We don't intend to register for ourselves any domains that we don't want to use, though I admit that we have considered having some form of public interface to the info that may allow people to look through the list of recently de-activated domains and then register them. But even if we were interested in registering lots of recently de-activated domains - what's the problem with this - they are available and moreover they are domains that people have let the payments on drop. At least we'd be intending to pay for these domain (I know someone with "legitimate" access to the info who uses it to notice when domains eh never had any intention of paying for drop out of DNS so that he can look to re-register it - I should say that this is an induhvidual and that the "company" may have not idea about this). (c) At least part of our interest was purely statistical - we thought it useful to have a stateful track of things so we could do stats on it (and if it was useful make it publically available). I'll re-phrase myself a little - there are several things I'd like to do and I object to not being able to do any one of those when others are perfectly at liberty to do so. I'm reasonably happy to be told that nobody can do x,y or z as long as it's reasonably fairly imposed/upheld etc. Manar
--Ben Kirkpatrick, ELI Data Products Enginneering
On Fri, 15 May 1998, Manar Hussain wrote: )We want to use it to create an in house db of domains so we can track which )domains are being released and do some stats stuff on it as well as do some )degree of local domain querying without having to rely on internic's ropey )whois) ... no desire to farm email addresses or anything.