SJW> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 19:38:40 +0100 (BST) SJW> From: Stephen J. Wilcox SJW> in the below example its unclear what causes the path to be SJW> the way it is but it doesnt look optimum in terms of ip hops SJW> altho it presumably is only 2 or 3 AS hops I dub it... eOLPF. SJW> i'm saying that AS hops give no indication of the network SJW> size and there is some manual intervention to improve BGPs SJW> short sight BGP might be "good enough" if there were enough peering points. But peering is a business decision, and perhaps vulnerable to an "inverse tragedy of the commons" approach. How little can you get away with before customers leave? Why peer when you hopefully can force a sale here or there? Wars of attrition can be interesting. Eddy -- Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - EverQuick Internet Division Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 (785) 865-5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 (316) 794-8922 Wichita ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:23:58 +0000 (GMT) From: A Trap <blacklist@brics.com> To: blacklist@brics.com Subject: Please ignore this portion of my mail signature. These last few lines are a trap for address-harvesting spambots. Do NOT send mail to <blacklist@brics.com>, or you are likely to be blocked.