Could we get the summary and insight at the beginning of the note next time? :) Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Weeks Network Operations Center Digital Island, Inc Honolulu, Hawaii +1 808 540 4021 +1 808 540 4020 ------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Jeremy Porter wrote:
Here is my running summary of this debate, with only mild editorizing:
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So it seems: Against transparent proxying: Karl D. Against Digex transparent proxing: Patrick G. Upset about the problems with transparency not working: Jon L. Against transparency (for operational reasons even!) Mike O'Dell Thinks that bandwidth grows on trees: John F Pro hiarcheial caching, even transparency: Pushpendra M Hank N Patrick M Paul V Sean Doran andrew k Alan H Paul G Rich S Lamenting the lack of a Digex NOC to report transparency problems to: Randy B
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All well. I'd guess that content providers had better start working with cache vendors to make things work right, as I would guess a good bit of the content is going to go through caches, if you like it or not and everyone is going to be better off with it.
There should be a real good flame war when people role out CoS/Voice over IP/ RSVP to exist next to best effort delivery. (My contract with provider X clearly implies that my traffic should be treated with equal priority to all other traffic on the network, therefore you are in breach of contract for offering higher priorities than best effort, oh and BTW you are doing unlawful wiretapping because you are classifying traffic by type which means looking past the IP address in the header.)
--- Jeremy Porter, Freeside Communications, Inc. jerry@fc.net PO BOX 80315 Austin, Tx 78708 | 512-458-9810 http://www.fc.net