Perhaps I am missing something from your advantage list, but why would you want to exchange routing information with a network to which you don't have a connection due to a local failure? I think you are attempting to abstract routing from the underlying physical infrastructure a bit too much. If the power is out in the carrier pop to which you are connected, they don't have a way to give you traffic so why would a multi-hop session help. BGP being down is rarely something that happens on its own, it is typically due to something far more physical (router failure, pop outage, circuit outage, etc). John -----Original Message----- From: Michael McConnell [mailto:michael@winkstreaming.com] Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:40 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Multihop eBGP peering or VPN based eBGP peering Hello all, Any idea why more companies don't offer eBGP peering / multi hop peering? Its very common for providers to offer single or double hop peering, so why not 5 or 10 hops? In many cases people find it logical to perform single or double hop peering, why is peering any greater always frowned upon. I understand the logic that you can't control the path beyond a point, however I still see numerous advantages. One obvious advantages one is, imagine you east coast data centre and you had a eBGP peering session with a west coast router, you'd be able to control ingress via the west coast. (aka routing around an region outage that is effecting ingress) For example during the last hurricane around New Jersey, numerous tier 1's were down towards the atlantic and every peer for the atlantic was effected. One could have just made the ingress via the west coast the logical route. Thoughts? Mike -- Michael McConnell WINK Streaming; email: michael@winkstreaming.com phone: +1 312 281-5433 x 7400 cell: +506 8706-2389 skype: wink-michael web: http://winkstreaming.com