On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 09:21:24 CDT, "Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr." said:
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:48:12 -0000, Paul Ferguson said:
Is this an issue that network operations folk don't really care about?
If somebody's paying you $n/megabyte for transit/connectivity, what's your incentive to make them clean up their act and get rid of their P2P filesharing traffic, spam traffic, and so on?
What is your price for cocaine?
No, seriously.. If, as some estimates have it, 80% of the traffic is P2P, and as other estimates have it, 90% of that is copyright-infringing, then if that traffic disappears, anybody who was selling transit for that traffic is going to take a *big* revenue hit. And similarly, if you're selling transit to somebody who's then (eventually) reselling a pipe to Atrivio/Intercage or the RBN, turning that somebody off because they won't turn off the bad guys is going to make a dent in the bottom line. I think it's very disingenuous to pretend that there have been *no* providers that haven't said to themselves "We're selling to scum, but it pays the bills, and we'd be in bankruptcy court otherwise..." The fact that bad guys don't seem to have *any* trouble getting connectivity once they finally *do* get kicked off a provider is proof enough that: a) There exist providers that are willing to take money from scum. b) We won't get rid of the scum until we admit (a) is true.