Man this makes it difficult to figure out who is to blame/ or who to try to help . Looks like nobody at Mae West wants to talk to Digex right now . Heck this went all the way to Mae East to get back to ELI's connection(s) . Twys , JimL Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to ns2.baby-dragons.com (192.103.194.6) 1 sjc3-core3-fa0-0-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.58.227) 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec 2 sjc4-core6-pos1-3.atlas.digex.net (165.117.60.2) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec 3 sjc4-core5-pos6-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.59.93) 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec 4 dca1-core9-a2-0.1.atlas.digex.net (165.117.55.5) 72 msec 68 msec 68 msec 5 dca1-core9-pos5-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.51.245) 76 msec 76 msec dca1-core10-pos6-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.56.54) 76 msec 6 dca1-core10-pos6-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.56.54) 80 msec 84 msec 80 msec 7 iad1-core4-pos4-3.atlas.digex.net (165.117.53.34) 84 msec iad1-core2-pos1-0-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.52.193) 76 msec 80 msec 8 mae-east.priori.net (192.41.177.143) 80 msec iad1-core2-pos1-0-0.atlas.digex.net (165.117.52.193) 80 msec mae-east.priori.net (192.41.177.143) 80 msec 9 a1-0-0--2.cr01.wash.eli.net (207.173.113.242) [AS 5650] 164 msec mae-east.priori.net (192.41.177.143) 84 msec a1-0-0--2.cr01.wash.eli.net (207.173.113.242) [AS 5650] 116 msec 10 a1-0-0--7.cr02.sttl.eli.net (207.173.114.125) [AS 5650] 168 msec 168 msec 168 msec 11 p0-0-0.gw01.sttl.eli.net (216.190.160.253) [AS 5650] 168 msec 164 msec a1-0-0--7.cr02.sttl.eli.net (207.173.114.125) [AS 5650] 172 msec 12 gw-CLICK-NETWORK2-DOM.sttl.eli.net (209.210.81.174) [AS 5650] 172 msec 168 msec p0-0-0.gw01.sttl.eli.net (216.190.160.253) [AS 5650] 172 msec 13 gw-CLICK-NETWORK2-DOM.sttl.eli.net (209.210.81.174) [AS 5650] 176 msec 131.191.8.62 [AS 5650] 172 msec gw-CLICK-NETWORK2-DOM.sttl.eli.net (209.210.81.174) [AS 5650] 176 msec 14 sunny.tpl.lib.wa.us (192.103.194.13) [AS 5650] 172 msec 131.191.8.62 [AS 5650] 180 msec 176 msec 15 sunny.tpl.lib.wa.us (192.103.194.13) [AS 5650] 192 msec * 176 msec 16 ns2.baby-dragons.com (192.103.194.6) [AS 5650] 176 msec 180 msec 176 msec +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | James W. Laferriere | System Techniques | Give me VMS | | Network Engineer | 25416 22nd So | Give me Linux | | babydr@baby-dragons.com | DesMoines WA 98198 | only on AXP | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+