Noel, With all due respects, no one is rewriting history. In early 1993 I had little time to read IETF threads on the aggregation issue, kind sir. We were working 12-16 hours a day moving big corporations and corporate networks into a position to be a part of the big I. It was the AGS+ --- 7000s were just a dream....... and from our vantage point the future address space problems were the least of my worries. Keeping corporate network managers from getting fired because they could not move packets or had to renumber three class Bs to connect were my issues. Keeping high power marketing experts from going way over your head and doing battle over ordering a client to renumber was a daily event. The historical IETF WGs have their history, as you remind us. But it is only fair to point out that there are other practical perspectives and day-to-day operations that have historical significance. The IETF is not the *only* organization allowed to have an opinion (and I use the word "organization" very loosely). I do not wish to argue with my Noel. I would rather pick a fight with the devil..... at least I would stand a fighting chance :-) The topic, I thought was something like "router wars" and address space issues. I simple point out that it is causal that there will be problems with global aggregation; and the social, political, and economic ramifications may possibly overshadow any technical drafts the IETF stores in it's archives. Please do not send any life 200 mm shells toward this bunker. I am still having trouble finding my asbestos long johns and teflon helmet ;-) I'm not one to question your dominance in the field, only to learn and work toward similar goals. Best Regards, Tim +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Tim Bass | #include<campfire.h> | | Principal Network Systems Engineer | for(beer=100;beer>1;beer++){ | | The Silk Road Group, Ltd. | take_one_down(); | | | pass_it_around(); | | http://www.silkroad.com/ | } | | | back_to_work(); /*never reached */ | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+