On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 12:45 PM William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 9:09 PM Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:55 AM William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
No, the best option for me right now is that I just don't participate
in RPKI and the system has one less participant. And that's a shame.
That's only true in the current environment where RPKI is only used to
invalidate bogus routes. When any reachability for RPKI-unknowns is
lost, that will change.
Hi Rubens,
If you want to bet me on folks ever deciding to discard RPKI-unknowns
down in the legacy class C's I'll be happy to take your money.
I don't think people will look at even the class, and definitively notto legacy or non-legacy partitions.They will either drop it all, or not drop it at all.Note that when the only IP blocks that spammers and abusers can injectin the system are non-signed ones, those blocks will get badreputations pretty fast. So the legacy holders use case for RPKI mightcome sooner than you think.
Nah… Because the reputations will still be the individual /24s and while
lots of /24s around mine have bad reputations, mine doesn’t and never has
(modulo a couple of administrative errors that were on me and legitimately
my fault, not actual spammers).
Anyway, the risk/reward calculation for NOT signing the LRSA right now
is really a no-brainer. It's just unfortunate that means I won't get
an early start on RPKI.
Discarding RPKI-invalids is something you can do right now and thatdoesn't come with a price tag. Good BCP38 and RPKI-invalid hygiene isthe thankless gift you can give to the community.
can be safely dropped and 90% of RPKI invalids so far seem to be people
making RPKI mistakes with their legitimate announcements.
The more I look at RPKI, the more it looks like a lot of effort with very little
benefit to the community.
YMMV
Owen