Basically, the market demand is INCREDIBLY HIGH and businesses want to build up infrastructure to meet this demand but the Internic IP address allocation procedures are too confusing and take too long.
Your proposal is? If you say charging for address space, please explain what would stop deep pocket companies from buying up all the address space?
Regards, -drc
Deja Vu. Again.
Haven't I heard this somewhere before? :-)
- paul
Well I have an idea for a proposal, strangely enough it seems the only one that can be impletemented without causing the providers and or agencies involved to get sued for restraint of trade, anti-trust, or other nasty legal entanglements. It completely avoids the mentioned address speculation problem. And best of all it creates the least changes to existing systems. Maybe that is a drawback :) Its call "Route Efficiency Policy based routing", aka "Prefix length filtering" The value of a particular prefix is related to who is at the destination. And partly, the more hosts reachable via a prefix , the greater the value of a prefix is. Because /24s are notoriously inefficient, portable /24s out of new allocations is just bad. Customer's that change providers are going to have to renumber. ISPs with tiny customer bases are going to have to renumber. Its a cost of doing business. Sprint is filtering, it apperas to have help stablize Sprintlink during a critcal period. Other providers at Feb. Nanog were talking about filtering. Because of IANA policies the Internic has to give people that ask IP addresses. They warn you that they MAY not be routable on the global Internet. (keep in mind you don't have to hassle with the Internic if you want non-routable IPs, net 10 works well). Most new machines being connected to the Internet have some sort of DHCP, BOOTP, or other auto-numbering/auto-renumbering system. So there is much less need for portable IP space today than there was. Since, we are not forcing people to renumber that have legacy allocations, there is no REAL issue with legacy systems. BTW all these "small" ISPs that need portable IP address space, contact me. I've got a good bit of portable space, and for the right price, I'll pay my customers to renumber out of it. I keep hearing the claim that "routable" IP space is VALUABLE, so lets get a list of these people that are willing to pay for that value. (Oh, that's right, they expect it to be given to them for free, and they expect the rest of the Internet to train them on BGP, DNS, Sendmail, and then replace all our routers, because they are too lazy to renumber the 4 or 5 machines they have on that class C.) You can't have your cake and eat it too, either the Net is a business and you pay for routable IP space, or its a communist free love fuck fest, and its your god-given right to have portable routable IP space. In every industry and business, when you keep increasing the total pie, the cost of getting into that business goes up. (Don't see many new long distance telephone companies, or auto manufactures these days do you?) If anyone doesn't think I'm completely serious about selling off my old allocations and renumber into more effecient space, just ask. All of the address space I've received from the Internic has been allocated to me under the policies existing at that time. -- Jeremy Porter, Freeside Communications, Inc. jerry@fc.net PO BOX 80315 Austin, Tx 78708 | 1-800-968-8750 | 512-339-6094 http://www.fc.net