I got a new allocation about 18 months ago. I sent them a spread sheet of the users and their current IPs. I changed the real customer name to something that reflected what business they were in. So I had lots of "Hotel Customer 1" and "Dr. Office 112" with what IPs they were using. There was no way we were going to release a complete customer list to anyone. They didn't seem to have a problem with this. Richey -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth McRae [mailto:kenneth.mcrae@dreamhost.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 11:46 AM To: Owen DeLong Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN I have never provided the names of end users.. How the address space would be utilized? Definitely.. But not the names of end users... On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
There is not a new policy added on to prevent hoarding. What is required is what has been required for several years. Utilization information and proper justification.
If you are seeking an ISP allocation, then, reassignment (customer) information is in fact part of that utilization information.
Owen
On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Kenneth McRae wrote:
Negative.. I have never had to provide end user information. I have been required to provide utilization information. I am sure this "policy" is and add-on to make it more difficult to prevent hoarding..
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof@thejof.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:32 AM, <admin@thecpaneladmin.com> wrote:
Anyone have any tips for getting IPs from ARIN? For an end-user allocation they are requesting that we provide customer names for existing allocations, which is information that will take a while to obtain. They are insisting that this is standard process and something that everyone does when requesting IPs. Has anyone actually had to do this?
Indeed. It's worked this way for a long time.
When starting a new organization, there's a bit of a chicken and egg problem with IP space. If anyone could get IP space just for asking for it, it would have been consumed too quickly. So, organizations must first get some space assigned to them from an upstream provider and begin using it. At some point the current usage and growth rate of the assigned space will justify a direct allocation.
Then, you can renumber into your new space and be totally independent.
Cheers, jof
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Kenneth McRae *Sr. Network Engineer* kenneth.mcrae@dreamhost.com Ph: 323-375-3814 www.dreamhost.com
-- Best Regards, Kenneth McRae *Sr. Network Engineer* kenneth.mcrae@dreamhost.com Ph: 323-375-3814 www.dreamhost.com