Aaron,

One simple question. Why on earth would you offer free internet service? How and why? Your site show 1 Gig symmetrical for free when you should be a minimum of $65 per month to be competitive. 

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 12:31 PM Aaron Wendel <aaron@wholesaleinternet.net> wrote:
We run MikroTik RB4011s for residential speeds between 1G and 10G or just supply a media converter.  For residential 40G and 100G we just drop in Arista or Extreme switches.  SMBs are normally just a media converter or direct fiber handoff.

https://mikrotik.com/product/rb4011igs_5hacq2hnd_in

There are not a lot of options for good, off the shelf 10G CPE equipment.  The handful of 10G residential customers we have seem to be happy with the tik.  The couple that don’t use it have rolled their own solution.

Like anything, I’m sure once the major home broadband providers start to catch up with us smaller guys the vendors will catch up as well.

https://www.kcfiber.com/residential

Aaron


On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote:


i really don't get what the problem is. it's like they're being deliberately obtuse.

Michael,

If vendors saw a 10GbE CPE market, they would serve it. Obviously they don’t see a market. Why don’t people insisting vendors build their hobby horse see that? It’s like they’re being deliberately obtuse :)

-mel via cell

On Dec 26, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> wrote:


On 12/26/20 8:00 AM, Valdis Klētnieks wrote:

Anybody got a feel for what percent of the third-party gear currently sold to
consumers has sane bufferbloat support in 2020, when we've *known* that
de-bufferbloated gear is a viable differentiatior if marketed right (consider the
percent of families that have at least one gamer who cares)?

I don't know percentages, but just trying to find cpe that support it in their specs is depressingly small. considering that they're all using linux and queuing discipline software is ages old, i really don't get what the problem is. it's like they're being deliberately obtuse. given all of the zoom'ing happening now you think that somebody would hit them with the clue-bat that this is a marketing opportunity.

Mike