We're golden! DSJ -----Original Message----- From: Roland Dobbins [mailto:rdobbins@cisco.com] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:20 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: EC2 and GAE means end of ip address reputation industry? (Re:Intrustion attempts from Amazon EC2 IPs) On Jun 22, 2008, at 11:17 PM, Paul Vixie wrote:
so, i'm not whining, just pointing out that this is a sea change, the end of an era.
And it's even more significant in that large enterprise customers and others will have explicitly *whitelisted* the IP blocks associated with these services. While static IPs are available for EC2 and for the other services, as you point out, it can't last in an IPv4 world. Later on, as the technologies mature and standards emerge, we'll see automagic arbitraging of jobs/loads/tasks between clouds, so things will be even more diffuse in terms of pinpointing the actual sources of undesirable traffic or other antisocial behavior (e.g., a spam engine may be resident in one cloud and making use of network resources/proxies in another cloud, that kind of thing; 'botnets in the sky', as it were). This is far different from free email Google or Hotmail - these cloud services (EC2, Mosso, Slicehost, Terremark's Enterprise Cloud, Telstra's new service, AppEngine, et.al.) are where many popular new Internet applications will live, and, even more significantly, where an increasing amount large-scale enterprise computing (like banking, pharma, government, and so forth) will take place. I foresee interesting times ahead. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@cisco.com> // +66.83.266.6344 mobile History is a great teacher, but it also lies with impunity. -- John Robb