Oh, come on. You must not monitor NANOG that much. Otherwise, you would know that if I was flaming, anyone with a bell*.* address would be in a burn ward. I was just making a simple observation. Can I help it if every contact I've had, save one, with bell*.* has been a clueless, old-fart, union-so-you-can't-replace-him-her-with-someone-with-clue, wouldn't know a clue if it came up and bit them in the a$%@^$@%^ piece of %^&#%&^#?!??? who is sucking up oxygen from the script kiddies (who while I hate, may actually grow up some day and do something productive)??!!!??? Don't want to be associated with that stereotype? Get rid of 99% of your organization or go to work for someone else. BTW: I know from first hand experience. I had to leave a job at a bell*.* company because as a 19 y/o. I made the 20/30/40/50/60 y/o's nervous as far as their jobs were concerned. 'Nuff said. --- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Christian Kuhtz wrote:
John,
I disagree with Deron, albeit for different reasons. But I don't think the flame was neccessary.
Cheers, Chris
-- Christian Kuhtz <ck@arch.bellsouth.net> -wk, <ck@gnu.org> -hm Sr. Architect, Engineering & Architecture, BellSouth.net, Atlanta, GA, U.S. "I speak for myself only."
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of John Fraizer Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 7:01 PM To: Deron J. Ringen Cc: Simon Lyall; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: RFC1918 addresses to permit in for VPN?
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Deron J. Ringen wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Simon Lyall Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 3:03 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: RFC1918 addresses to permit in for VPN? . . One of the companies we work with has 192.168 address for some of the radius servers we have to talk to, we are directly connected to them so it's not a big pain but it's just so ugly. . . That makes perfect sense to me...there is not a better way to
protect a box
from a DOS/hack than to only give it a private address. Why expose a box to the outside world if there is not a need???
Deron,
Ever heard of an access list? Didn't think so.
Deron J. Ringen Sr. Network Architect BellSouth Internet Services
Typical.
--- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc