No, not new. No need to buy new switches when there are so many used available (except for now needing 100G). Switches have an extremely long life. I have a client that has 15 year old Foundry switches that just work, though we're looking to replace them to get some 10G ports.

The pricing was part of my point. For years everyone says just skip 40G and go to 100G. The price difference isn't that much....  but it is.

"Everyone just skipped 40G and went for 100G." Then why is there such an availability of 40G switches? Obviously they weren't skipped, but purchased and then later replaced.

Looks like $280 for an LR4 40G and $800 for an LR4 100G. Still a premium for 100G over 40G.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Midwest-IX
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From: "Colton Conor" <colton.conor@gmail.com>
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net>
Cc: chuckchurch@gmail.com, "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 2:06:30 PM
Subject: Re: Cheap switch with a couple 100G

Mike,

Are you saying that you can buy a new Cisco Nexus 3064 or Arista 7050sx for $1,000 new from these vendors, or are you talking about used stuff on eBay? If you are comparing to used stuff on ebay pricing good luck. I doubt you will find many used 100G switches as they are too new of a technology unlike 10G. Hell you can barely buy a couple of 10KM 100G optics from FS.com for less than $1000.



On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 12:11 PM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
No.

Cisco Nexus 3064, Arista 7050sx, etc.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Midwest-IX
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From: "Chuck Church" <chuckchurch@gmail.com>
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net>, "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 11:07:33 AM
Subject: RE: Cheap switch with a couple 100G

Under 1K for 48 10G ports?  Are you missing a decimal place?

Chuck

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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 9:39 AM
To: 'North American Network Operators' Group' <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Cheap switch with a couple 100G

I keep hearing how cheap 100G is compared to 40G and it doesn't seem to hold true. Prove me wrong.

Cisco Nexus and Arista both have switches with 48x 10G ports and 2x - 6x 40G ports for under $1k. Swap those 40G for 100G and you're at $5k - $7k.

Am I missing some cheap switches with 100G?


I ask this because the transport companies seem to have given up on 40G.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Midwest-IX
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