Dave Crocker wrote:
On 4/12/2014 2:38 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> wrote: someone needs to get a legal opinion wrt the DMARC group's effort to have all mailinglists change their From: address.
"The DMARC group" (presumably referring to the dmarc.org informal consortium that created DMARC) is conducting no such effort.
The action taken this past week was an independent effort by Yahoo.
dmarc.org had nothing to do with it.
The DMARC specification is quite clear about the limitations of its use.
Nothing is aided by the confusing the very basic different between a specification and the choices actors make in applying it.
Dave, it's not that clear cut. Standards bodies have been held liable for negligence, as have participants in standards making processes (just did a little googling of case law). Trade associations have been held to be in violation of antitrust law. I would expect that the right lawyer might have a field day painting the "informal consortium that created DMARC" as colluding in violation of anti-trust law, and perhaps criminal conspiracy. At the very least, "creating a public nuisance." And that's before we even consider civil torte liability. I also expect that someone could make a good case against Yahoo for "knowingly caus[ing] the transmission of a program, information code, or command, and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damages without authorization to a protected computer” in violation of the Computer and Fraud Abuse Act - for publishing their p=reject policy, and possibly for hotmail, comcast, etc. for criminal conspiracy in honoring that policy. (Kind of like a DDoS attack, or domain hijacking.) But then, I'm not a lawyer, just an engineer and sometime policy wonk (who just had lots of fun working with some very smart lawyers on a bid protest). Hmm... I wonder if anybody who's suffered serious economic damage as a result of this wants to bankroll some lawyers? Could be fun. (And given the amount of pain this has inflicted on me, personally, I wouldn't mind sharing some of the pain.) Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra