On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 15:50 -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:44:23 +0200, Jeroen Massar said:
Kick Abilene to not be so silly and get some real transits. Then again Abiline is educational and those networks seem to have very nice (read: overcomplex) routing policies...
Somehow, I don't think anything that Abilene does is going to fix Jordi's routing. From where *you* are, do *you* have a path to 2001:0440:1880:1000::0020 that *doesn't go through Japan? If so, what does your path look like?
As mentioned in my first response, see: http://www.sixxs.net/tools/traceroute/ which is a Distributed Traceroute, allowing one to traceroute over IPv4 and IPv6 from most of the SixXS POPs, which are present in most parts of Europe and also one in the US @ OCCAID. or check: http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/ for a nice BGP looking glass (grh.sixxs.net for telnet ;) To solve Jordi's problem I've brought him, offlist, into contact with an ISP that is able to give him native IPv6 in Spain with a native route to most places, so that problem should not exist anymore in a few weeks. On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 16:11 -0400, Bill Owens wrote:
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 09:44:23PM +0200, Jeroen Massar wrote:
Kick Abilene to not be so silly and get some real transits. Then again Abiline is educational and those networks seem to have very nice (read: overcomplex) routing policies...
I don't speak for Abilene or Internet2, but here's what I know. Abilene doesn't buy transit from anyone.
Yes, I am aware of this; as I mentioned, they are educational and have some overcomplex routing policies. This seem to be the case for the majority of NREN's unfortunately which causes bad connectivity towards the 'commercial' prefixes, one day this will include a Google service, who btw are also already using their own IPv6 prefix, and then it will most likely hit these places that people need good connectivity to those sites too... Good part is that they do have a staff that is aware and understands this issue, it is just good to note whenever doing a traceroute or noticing bad connectivity that NREN's seem to have those issues... Having them in GRH also allows one to see where it most likely goes wrong. Greets, Jeroen