You're claiming to be able to generate more than 10 times as much traffic as the largest DDoS ever seen in the wild whilst 3 months into a position at a company that sells 'self-DDoS' services for testing purposes. In that absence of anything more than 'GUYZ THIS IS SERIOUS' , with no technical details, you can surely understand the skepticism. On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 5:45 AM, Jean | ddostest.me via NANOG < nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
I admit that I have a lot of guts.
Not sure who said that I am a booter or that I operate a booter. I fight booter since more than 5 years and who would be stupid enough to put his full name with full address to a respected network operators list? Definitely not me.
I want to help and fix things and I am not the kind of person to break things.
Jean
On 16-12-22 03:46 AM, j.j.santanna@utwente.nl wrote:
Hi Jean,
You are either naive or have a lot of guts to offer a Booter service in one of the most respected network operators list. Man, as long as you use amplifiers (third party services) or botnets your “service” is illegal & immoral. In case you use your own infrastructure or rent a legal (cloud) infrastructure to provide your "service" it will not pay your costs. Not at least by the price that you offer your service: 0, 13, 100 bucks. Even if you have a legal/moral acceptable attack infrastructure, if you throw those big attacks that you advertise will possibly take down many others third-parties on the way.
Sometimes you folks say that (mis)use amplifiers for “testing” purpose is not a problem because those services are open and publicly available on the Internet. Come on… if I leave my car open with the key inside it doesn’t give you the right to use my car to throw into a third party company. And if you do, it is YOUR CRIME, not mine.
I don’t need to explain why using botnets is illegal and immoral, right?
Man, it is up to you decide between cyber crime and cyber security ( https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/public-aw areness-and-prevention-guides/cyber-crime-vs-cyber-security- what-will-you-choose). Now, we are also looking to you on http://booterblacklist.com<http://booterblacklist.com/>. Thanks!
Cheers,
Jair Santanna
On 22 Dec 2016, at 07:51, Alexander Lyamin <la@qrator.net<mailto:la@qrato r.net>> wrote:
I am just trying to grasp what is similarity between networks on the list and why it doesn't include, say NTT or Cogent.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Jean | ddostest.me<http://ddostest.me/> via NANOG < nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> wrote:
Hello all, I'm a first time poster here and hope to follow all rules.
I found a new way to amplify traffic that would generate really high volume of traffic.+10Tbps
** There is no need for spoofing ** so any device in the world could initiate a really big attack or be part of an attack.
We talk about an amplification factor x100+. This mean that a single computer with 1 Gbps outgoing bandwidth would generate a 100 Gbps DDoS. Imagine what a botnet could do?
The list of affected business is huge and I would like to privately disclose the details to the Tier1 ISP as they are highly vulnerable.
XO Comm PSINET Level 3 Qwest Windstream Comm Eearthlink MCI Comm/Verizon Buss Comcast Cable Comm AT&T Sprint
I know it's Christmas time and there is no rush in disclosing this but, it could be a nice opportunity to meditate and shed some lights on this new DDoS threat. We could start the real work in January.
If you are curious and you operate/manage one of the network mentioned above, please write to me at tornaddos@ddostest.me<mailto:t ornaddos@ddostest.me> from your job email to confirm the identity. I will then forward you the DDoS details.
Best regards
Jean St-Laurent ddostest.me<http://ddostest.me/> 365 boul. Sir-Wilfrid-Laurier #202 Beloeil, QC J3G 4T2
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