I guess there is a misunderstanding between what an educational institution views IT costs as. IT costs (more bandwidth, etc) are 100% overhead. Most have no way of recovering these costs as an increase in revenue. Most corporations, etc could pass this fee on to supported organizations, but from what I understand of Universities, its 100% unrecovered overhead. Hence, no business model. Any bits over 0 are therefore expensive. Regards, Deepak Jain AiNET On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Jeremy Porter wrote:
O is for Operator Hm... I thought this was NANOG. Presumably even universities have the capability to allocate costs to internal customers. more bits = good less bits = bad Pretty simple. The question that would be correct for this forum, is what techniques do network operators use to measure and scale service for high bandwidth applications.
In message <20000124152605.A25299@iglou.com>, Jeff Mcadams writes:
Thus spake Randy Bush
Since these apps are becoming more and more prevalent, as college students are huge collectors of digital music, and as bandwidth is always a concern, I am wondering what others in either the educational or business community are doing in light of this.
pretending we're in business, charging for bandwidth, and crying all the way to the bank.
when the customer wants more of your product, and if you find this negative, then your business model needs re-evaluation.
Considering that his email address ended in ".edu" and was asking his question as a representative of such an institution (which you considerably cut out of your response ;), I would say that your statement about his business model needing re-evaluation is a bit uncalled for.
I will agree that you, as a business-person, would find the extra use of bandwidth of something like napster nice because you then go on and charge for the bandwidth...being in the business environment myself, I wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment...but I also understand that the original poster is not working from the same paradigm. :) -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
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