I wasn't familiar with it, so thanks for sharing!  The Google search for 'he cogent cake' was entertaining.  Hard to believe that conflict is going on 9+ years..

Kenny


-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Owen DeLong
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 2:54 PM
To: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Whats going on at Cogent

Mainly I wasn’t expounding because I’m surprised to learn that there’s anyone on this list unfamiliar with it.

Didn’t want to bore people.

I tended to speak my mind while I worked for HE, I’m certainly not going to stop as a result of no longer working there. ;-)

Owen


> On Oct 24, 2018, at 04:51 , John Peach <john-nanog@peachfamily.net> wrote:
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> On 10/23/2018 08:47 PM, Ross Tajvar wrote:
>> Sorry all. I misread Owen's email. I'm not trying to air his private business to the list.
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> There is no secret - a quick search on the terms HE, Cogent and peering (and possibly cake) will give you the answer. Presumably Owen is not expounding because he used to work for HE.
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>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018, 8:20 PM Brad Knowles <brad@shub-internet.org <mailto:brad@shub-internet.org>> wrote:
>>    On Oct 23, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Ross Tajvar <ross@tajvar.io
>>    <mailto:ross@tajvar.io>> wrote:
>>     > I am also interested in hearing about this. I think it's relevant
>>    to the current thread.
>>    Speaking only for myself, there are companies where I have done
>>    short-term contracts, and where I am definitely not interested in
>>    any further employment opportunities with them.  OTOH, I am totally
>>    happy to continue to be a customer of theirs.
>>    Further discussion of that sort of thing would not be appropriate
>>    here.  If Josh is in the same boat with HE, I totally understand.
>>    For the Network Time Foundation (and related projects), I think
>>    we've been pretty happy as a customer of HE, but then we're just a
>>    small customer of theirs.
>>    --     Brad Knowles <brad@shub-internet.org <mailto:brad@shub-internet.org>>
>>    Please forgive any typos.  I'm fighting a failing keyboard on my
>>    laptop, in addition to having a broken finger.
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