On Aug 31, 2021, at 16:32 , Jeroen Massar <jeroen@massar.ch> wrote:
On 2021-09-01 01:13, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote:
You just broke 99% of the smart television sets in people’s homes, unfortunately.
If only everybody would not get a separate box, be that a AppleTV, a Playstation, a XBox, Chromecast, ... or many other options.
Fun part being that it is hard to get a Dumb TV... though that is primarily simply because of all the tracking non-sense in them that makes them 'cheaper'... (still wonder how well that tracking stuff complies with GDPR, I am thinking it does not ... Schrems anyone? :) )
Interestingly, no, it’s easy to get a “dumb TV” these days… We just call them “monitors”. I have two of them (one on either side) of my iMAC as I write this. (Makes for great X-Plane flying visuals. On the other hand, the last time I went looking for a 27” monitor, I ended up buying a 44” smart television because it was a cheaper HDMI 4K monitor than the 27” alternatives that weren’t televisions. (It also ended up being cheaper than the 27” televisions which didn’t do 4K only 1080p, but I digress).
That will resolve itself over time, of course, as sets are replaced, but anyone with a set that is more than ~3 years old is mostly unlikely to have IPv6 support in it and the vendors are ALL universally terrible about updating firmware.
Quite a bit of Android TV out there too.... and we all know how well that supports DHCPv6... ;)
Does DHCPv6 really matter in a home? Really? I mean, I understand the NAC argument in the corporate LAN environment, but the average household user can’t even spell NAC, let alone implement an 802.1X stack.
Btw, geofeeds are getting fetched by some entities.
I presume geofeeds are getting fetched by many entities, but I’m not sure what the point of that is.
I've seen at least Dataprovider.com and DB-IP, others that fetch the CSV don't bother to set UA to something unique, thus one sees curl + axios coming by for instance, which does not tell much; but apparently we have to give up on UAs anyway, even though they are great for things like bots where one can have a wee bit of contact details in the line.
Yeah, Safari can now be trained to lie about it’s UA in developer mode easily. I presume this is true in Crome, Firefox, and just about anything else as well. It’s behind the drop-down panel to keep the adults out of the VCR, but it’s easily visible to any kid that would know how to program a VCR.
For instance DB-IP does regular updates of their code (rXXXX) and fetches quite often:
2a00:18a8:6:40:dcad:beff:feef:100 - - [23/Aug/2021:09:32:09 +0000] "GET /geofeed.csv HTTP/1.0" 200 827 "-" "db-ip geofeed updater r6499" 2a00:18a8:6:40:dcad:beff:feef:100 - - [23/Aug/2021:09:02:14 +0000] "GET /geofeed.csv HTTP/1.0" 200 827 "-" "db-ip geofeed updater r6499" 2a00:18a8:6:40:dcad:beff:feef:100 - - [24/Aug/2021:09:11:11 +0000] "GET /geofeed.csv HTTP/1.0" 200 827 "-" "db-ip geofeed updater r6500" 2a00:18a8:6:40:dcad:beff:feef:100 - - [24/Aug/2021:09:42:15 +0000] "GET /geofeed.csv HTTP/1.0" 200 827 "-" "db-ip geofeed updater r6500" 2a00:18a8:6:40:dcad:beff:feef:100 - - [24/Aug/2021:21:59:46 +0000] "GET /geofeed.csv HTTP/1.0" 200 827 "-" "db-ip geofeed updater r6501" 2a00:18a8:6:40:dcad:beff:feef:100 - - [25/Aug/2021:01:24:28 +0000] "GET /geofeed.csv HTTP/1.0" 200 827 "-" "db-ip geofeed updater r6501" 2a00:18a8:6:40:dcad:beff:feef:100 - - [25/Aug/2021:04:43:01 +0000] "GET /geofeed.csv HTTP/1.0" 200 827 "-" "db-ip geofeed updater r6501" 2a00:18a8:6:40:dcad:beff:feef:100 - - [25/Aug/2021:05:11:05 +0000] "GET /geofeed.csv HTTP/1.0" 200 827 "-" "db-ip geofeed updater r6501" 2a00:18a8:6:40:dcad:beff:feef:100 - - [26/Aug/2021:05:23:18 +0000] "GET /geofeed.csv HTTP/1.0" 200 827 "-" "db-ip geofeed updater r6502" 2a00:18a8:6:40:dcad:beff:feef:100 - - [26/Aug/2021:02:49:59 +0000] "GET /geofeed.csv HTTP/1.0" 200 827 "-" "db-ip geofeed updater r6502" 2a00:18a8:6:40:dcad:beff:feef:100 - - [27/Aug/2021:03:22:23 +0000] "GET /geofeed.csv HTTP/1.0" 200 827 "-" "db-ip geofeed updater r6504" 2a00:18a8:6:40:dcad:beff:feef:100 - - [27/Aug/2021:03:55:04 +0000] "GET /geofeed.csv HTTP/1.0" 200 827 "-" "db-ip geofeed updater r6504" 2a00:18a8:6:40:dcad:beff:feef:100 - - [28/Aug/2021:03:21:26 +0000] "GET /geofeed.csv HTTP/1.0" 200 827 "-" "db-ip geofeed updater r6507" 2a00:18a8:6:40:dcad:beff:feef:100 - - [28/Aug/2021:03:51:20 +0000] "GET /geofeed.csv HTTP/1.0" 200 827 "-" "db-ip geofeed updater r6507"
and looking up the IPs in DB-IP.com indeed nicely shows the locations configured in the geofeed, thus that is succesful.
I guess, but what do they do in terms of their “It’s a VPN” or “Not a VPN” service?
But I am fairly sure that they will mark things as VPN if they get a sniff of that; though "VPN" seems to mean "Virtual Public Network", not the Private of days gone...
A little of both these days. I’m still holding out for DOHOTOROUDPOIPOGREOIPSECOIP for name resolution. (I’m really not, just my twisted brand of cynical disgust at the everything->HTTPs trend) Owen