On 9 February 2013 22:49, Keith Medcalf <kmedcalf@dessus.com> wrote:
Most of these networks are provided by "Internet Marketing Companies". In exchange for free-reign in data harvesting and data capture/logging/tracking and advertisement/javascript insertion in web pages (etc), the hotel gets to offer "free" internet connections. Often the Hotel Internet is a profit center for the Hotel, the "Internet Company" paying the Hotel for unrestricted diddling rights to the unsuspecting guests traffic.
Same applies to almost every business that offers "free complimentary internet connections" ...
Occasionally you run into a Hotel that offers a quality and clean internet connection, however, these are few and far between ...
Several 2.5* / 3* hotel managers I spoke with volunteered, implied or confirmed that they're paying on the order of 2k$/mo for "internet" in Northern California. And at least in the US, I'm yet to encounter a complementary WiFi at any hotel that would be doing JavaScript insertion, so I'm not sure where you get your information that the free internet always means ads or a very high level of tampering. One of my prior residential ISPs, Embarq, arguably did more tampering and data mining with my connection than any of the hotels I have ever stayed at. (I'm talking about DNS hijacking.) Now. Notice that these hotels are already paying 2k$/mo and getting 10Mbps, which residentially retails at 40$/mo. How much will 100Mbps cost them? What, still 2k/mo? What are they waiting for? Or, pardon my residential bias, but are some of them still using T1's? Don't those cost a fortune? Wouldn't they actually save their money by going elsewhere? I hear microwave links are pretty popular these days, and offer great bandwidth and latency. C.
-----Original Message----- From: Mike Lyon [mailto:mike.lyon@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 09 February, 2013 23:23 To: Constantine A. Murenin Cc: North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network
"why do the sub-contracted internet support companies design and support such broken-by-design setups?"
Because they don't know any better and lack the technical clue on how to implement a network that can support a hotel-full (or half-full) of people...
But i'm sure they all have their MCSEs and CCNAs so they are qualified :)
-mike
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On Feb 9, 2013, at 19:57, "Constantine A. Murenin" <mureninc@gmail.com> wrote:
why do the sub-contracted internet support companies design and support such broken-by-design setups?