I agree completely with everything you stated. Now I promise to all those visually impaired, I will take this offline. Rob
In my opinion you are all overlooking one issue here. Our customers are the reason we exist and providing global connectivity to customers is important. Happy customers are important. If anyone forced you to peer with us, I would have to say it was your customer who called you up and requested that his company be able to access our network. The fellow I talked to at Exodus felt the way I do and believed that if one of his customers needed something that he was going to do his best to make it happen. Again, not to harp on this particular situation, I just want to express that many of these providers with the really strict peering policies have some very unhappy customers (I have talked to quite a few of them). They are unhappy because they can't get to all the destinations they need to. I think in the end the customers will vote by connecting elsewhere.
Thanks! ---Cathy
From: Robert Bowman <rob@elite.exodus.net> Subject: Re: AGIS/DIGEX The point was not who did what to whom. The point was bending policies due to certain circumstances and forced peering due to these. I do recall you having transit via geonet for a while however on the network in question. Same issue, on a much smaller scale, than AGIS/Digex situation. I agree with taking this offline, and discussing the "issue" rather than the particular situation between our networks.
rob
> > > > From: Robert Bowman <rob@elite.exodus.net> > Subject: Re: AGIS/DIGEX > This is all very interesting information. It seems at-home recently did > the same thing with us, as they stopped all transit and were not on CIX, > basically forcing us to peer with them. Is this the route to get peering > with the big players that will now evolve? Forced peering due to > unreachability? > > We did no such thing. We never had connectivity to you > and one of your customers called us and requested that we fix it so > that they could work with our content group. If you would like to > discuss this further please feel free to contact me. > > Thanks > ---Cathy > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Cathy Wittbrodt @Home Network > Network Manager 385 Ravendale > Mountain View, CA 94043 > Main Number: 415-944-7200 > Direct: 415-944-7213 > >