Mine has a 6" display and I know it's rare... because people always comment on how big it is. Many\most do HDMI out. About 14 people know about it. Maybe 4 actually do it with any level of regularity. Opt out if it's an issue for you. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owen DeLong" <owen@delong.com> To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net> Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 10:57:32 PM Subject: Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan. You are assuming a 4” display. First, lots of phones these days (mine include) larger than 4” displays. Even more phones, again, mine included, have HDMI output. And you better believe I notice the difference on a 32” TV in a hotel room. Owen
On Jan 8, 2016, at 20:25 , Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
I'm not certain that most consumers notice or care. How many people can notice 480p vs. 720p vs. 1080p on a 4" display? Now how many will notice the buffering or larger bills?
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From: "Constantine A. Murenin" <mureninc@gmail.com> To: "Valdis Kletnieks" <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 10:07:06 PM Subject: Re: Binge On! - get your umbrellas out, stuff's hitting the fan.
On 7 January 2016 at 19:43, Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
So we went round and round back in November regarding Binge On! and whether it was net neutrality. So here's some closure to that...
The EFF did some testing and discovered that what T-Mobile is actually doing doesn't match what they said it was...
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/01/eff-confirms-t-mobiles-bingeon-optimiz...
Apparently, John Legere, CEO of T-Mobile, doesn't know who the EFF is, or why they're giving him a hard time.
"Part B of my answer is, who the fuck are you, anyway, EFF?" Legere said. "Why are you stirring up so much trouble, and who pays you?"
http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/7/10733298/john-legere-binge-on-lie
/me makes popcorn....
I don't know what people have been smoking, but I'd like to set the record straight, once and for all.
T-Mobile US said that ALL video will be affected from day 0!
Here's my comment on https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/3sbbm5/netflix_hbo_gonow_sling_tv_...
2015-11-11: «Didn't T-Mobile say that all videos will automatically go at 480p from that point on? If so, what's really the point of an extra step, you know, of the service explicitly "applying" to participate?»
I've taken the time to find the source material that must have made me make such a comment, and, I FOUND IT!
https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/media-kits/un-carrier-x.htm
Los Angeles, California — November 10, 2015 ...
Powered by new technology built in to T-Mobile’s network, Binge On optimizes video for mobile screens, minimizing data consumption while still delivering DVD or better quality (e.g. 480p or better). That means more reliable streaming for services that stream free with Binge On, and for almost all other video, it means T-Mobile Simple Choice customers can watch up to three times more video from their data plan. And, as always, T-Mobile has put customers in total control with a switch to activate or deactivate Binge On for each line in their My T-Mobile account. Binge On is all about customer choice.
Here it is again, the relevant bits:
for almost all other video, it means T-Mobile Simple Choice customers can watch up to three times more video from their data plan
Those words have certainly been there since at least 2015-11-11!
HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT!
Just like the rest of the increases in ARPU and other metrics. Unlimited 4G didn't just have the tethering bucket increased from 7GB to 14GB, but the price went from 80$ to 95$, too. (And that doesn't include the earlier increase from 70$ to 80$, either.)
Oh, and, to answer EFF's question on why it's enabled by default:
https://youtu.be/MHFUT1_QlB8?t=47s
Since it's launched in November, we've learned customers were watching 12% more video.
It is not explicit that "12%" refers to a minute-based metric, but that's most certainly what was meant.
Now, compare this with the 66,6% savings by throttling all video to 1.5Mbps, so that "customers can watch up to three times more video", and the net effects of unlimited binge on become quite clear (and quite counter-intuitive to a naive guess on the matter).
That said, I have to say I'm disappointed with him going against his own consumers this time around. The only truth from his https://youtu.be/MHFUT1_QlB8 video is that, indeed, if the Dumb and Dumber would have implemented this functionality first, the carriers indeed would have found a way to charge extra for it!
Cheers, Constantine.SU.