BS> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:52:45 -0700 BS> From: Bill Stewart BS> [T]he normal definition of Internet service is to allow BS> everything unless there's a good reason not to, as opposed to BS> deny-most firewalls. Perhaps that's part of the problem. Has AOL's SMTP proxying and blocking driven it out of business? How much abuse do people see from, say, AOL netblocks versus SBC netblocks? "Disable unless needed" has long been considered prudent for servers. With end-user machines numbering orders of magnitude higher, why should they be held to drastically lower standards? Eddy -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita _________________________________________________________________ DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: davidc@brics.com -*- jfconmaapaq@intc.net -*- sam@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked.