Owen, BIll - Might I suggest moving this entire discussion over to ARIN’s ppml, as not everyone on nanog list necessary wants to spent their time reading about IP registry policy…? Thanks, /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers
On Jul 11, 2023, at 1:02 PM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 8:47 AM Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
– Leasing of IP address blocks independent of connectivity is not explicitly recognized in ARIN number resource policy (i.e. there is no policy that specifically allows or prohibits such activity.)
Correct me if I am wrong here, but in general, that which is not explicitly prohibited is implicitly allowed.
Hi Owen,
You're wrong-ish. "Address leasing" is not prohibited per se, it just doesn't count as in-use for the utilization requirements.
Consider Amazon AWS. You can have an "elastic IP address" that's not attached to a running server. If it stays that way for most of the month, they charge you for it explicitly rather than wrap it up in the general server charge. In other words, they lease the address without any associated connectivity.
Is that address in use per ARIN policy? I don't think it is. Has ARIN ever asked Amazon to detail the number of elastic IP addresses that are not actually in use when it sought more addresses? Probably not. Should they have? Only if there's reason to believe that there are a large enough number of such addresses to make a difference. Otherwise it's purposeless paperwork.
Regards, Bill Herrin
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