On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:24 PM, John Curran <jcurran@arin.net> wrote:
ARIN allows legacy holders to update their registration information, in fact, we even allow such via ARIN Online. No agreement is required with ARIN; we provide this service as well as WHOIS and reverse DNS without charge. If you no longer want to use your address space, you may return it, or transfer according to the community developed policies.
I think he means to ask: What happens if a legacy registrant (who has not signed any RSA) ad-hoc decided on their own that they have transferred some portion of their space (or their entire address space) to a different organization who was not named on the original IANA or Internic registration, and the legacy resource holder (or transfer recipient) cannot show their transfer was made with/through the approval of IANA, Internic, any RIR, etc, under any legacy policy, the legacy registry did not reflect it, (so there is no existing 'official' record of a transfer). Does ARIN recognize updates from organizations who claim that some resources were transferred to them by a legacy holder and treat the transfer recipient as a valid legacy resource holder? Particularly.... in difficult cases where the original legacy resource holder is completely defunct; the original organization named in the IANA or Internic registration might have moved (where multiple organizations have similar names), be bankrupt, have merged, or renamed itself, no longer able to be contacted, and the "claimed holder" might be claiming the entire legacy allocation was transferred to them (without WHOIS ever being updated) ? Does ARIN recognize all transfers claimed by the verifiable original legacy resource holder and treat transfers they claim to have made as valid? Or is some proof required that any transfer was made before ARIN existed (if an ARIN transfer policy was not followed)? Will they be allowed to update ARIN to reflect their ad-hoc "transfer" (which did not occur in a way that is valid under any current ARIN policy). *Since ARIN policy at the current time requires specified transfers be made through ARIN, and the recipient of address has to meet a utilization criterion. No ad-hoc transfers would seem to be allowed by current ARIN policies, except non-permanent reassignments. For example, if a legacy registrant with a /8 decided "One particular /24 somewhere in the middle of the assignment now permanently belongs to $OTHER_ENTITY" Will ARIN allow them to update WHOIS with that, and from then on treat $OTHER_ENTIY as a legacy holder of that one /24... with $ORIGINAL_ENTITY treated as a legacy holder who 'owns' all the /8 except one /24 ? Will ARIN allow the legacy resource holder to indicate "We have (non-permanently) reallocated or sub-delegated such and such /24 to $OTHER_ENTITY" Even if the legacy holder when obtaining the /8 was an "end user" (and not an ISP) when they obtained their legacy resources?
/John John Curran President and CEO ARIN
-- -JH