David, in 1997 and 1998 I was spending about 25% of my time interview the principals and engaged in informal conversations with Ira Magaziner,Kim Hubbard, DonMitchell and others. I was in Londone in late jan 1998 when Jon tried to redirect the root. Magaziner was there and daniel karenburg and others. We did an entire day on these issues. In addition to my published record, I have extensive electronic archives related to the manueverings in the founding of Arin. Should it come to a court case i believe that arin will come court fine and i trust that i will be able to asist the people involved in determining who did what to whom when and for what reasons. Steve Wolff will remember attending with me a late afternoon meeting with magaziner in Ira office in mid december 1997 on the day that Ira took Jon to lunch and announced to Jon that he had put together funding to carry the IANA activities through Oct 1 of 1998 and the founding of newco. Don Mitchel is Mr "cooperative agreement." I am quite confident that what John Curran is saying below is solid. Don did yeoman's work in ensuring the birth and independence of ARIN. ============================================================= The COOK Report on Internet Protocol, 609 882-2572 (PSTN) 609 403-2067 (mjack) Back Issues: http://www.cookreport.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=37&Itemid=61 Cook's Collaborative Edge Blog http://gordoncook.net/wp/ Subscription info: http://www.cookreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&Itemid=65 ============================================================= On Apr 12, 2010, at 2:36 PM, David Conrad wrote:
John,
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:23 AM, John Curran wrote:
On this matter we do agree, since allocations prior to ARIN's formation were generally made pursuant to a US Government contract or cooperative agreement.
As we're both aware, Jon was funded in part via the ISI Teranode Network Technologies project. Folks who were directly involved have told me that IANA-related activities weren't even identified in the original contracts until the mid- to late-90s (around the time when lawsuits were being thrown at Jon because of the domain name wars -- odd coincidence, that) when the IANA activities were codified as "Task 4". IANAL, but it seems a bit of a stretch to me for ARIN to assert policy control over resources allocated prior to ARIN's existence without any sort of documentation that explicitly lists that policy control in ARIN's predecessor (ever). Like I said, it'll be an interesting court case.
Regards, -drc