Michael [mumble] spewed:
ARIN does have a way of figuring out that the space is no longer in use.
No, they don't. ARIN has problems around v4 allocation that need to be fixed for sure. I fit ras's mold of a person who is part of the machine and (I'll take a STEAK dinner ras, thank you) I disagree with some of his statements. Anyone could take someone elses documentation and exploit the system to some extent. I have a 105mb of zip you can use to acquire space if you need it _that bad_. You'd likely get the space as long as you changed some bits of information within it. I have found that the more legitimate your need the easier the process, right in line with membership expectation IMHO. Let use "volume" as the justification in this discussion and put it at at least a /16 for general purposes. Show up asking for the entire /16 you are going nowhere, but show that you have that many hosts that need access to the net and you are a service provider, you'll at least get started with something to get you on the road to a renumbering and return of provider space. It ain't that hard. How would you feel if along with the trust measure, some legal measures were added in? Perhaps this made it easy and eliminated the entire process of templates altogehter? - officers of applying companies sign a document stating that the demonstrated utilization is accurate and that the IP's will be used for purposes in compliance with Internet standards - companies agreed to have IP space allocation and utilization reviewed and certified by their auditors and results submitted to ARIN on a yearly basis as condition of use I'll see you in the lobby Sunday for my free trip to McCormack and Schmicks. ;-) -M< -- Martin Hannigan (c) 617-388-2663 Renesys Corporation (w) 617-395-8574 Member of Technical Staff Network Operations hannigan@renesys.com