Yo Robert! How about moving this discussion to a more appropriate list? Nanog is not the place to discuss spam and we are re-inventing the wheel, badly, on nanog. Half the spam I get is from throw away AOL, netzero, earthlink, etc. accounts. Spend $10 for a new ISP account, sent 10,000 emails with MY return address which is valid and on whitelists. Do it on a long weekend and get 30k out before you get stopped. If the spammers can not run their own name servers then they will just use someone elses. Last I checked there where over 6,000 ISPs in the country. Cancel them one place and they just go to another. RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Blvd, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Fax: +1(541)382-8676 On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Robert Blayzor wrote:
Treat them sort of like SSL certs now. Charge an annual registrar fee per company, not per server. (Something like $100 a year) The more they have to go out of their way to get their spam server online, the more they would be deterred to do so. They're only going to want to change so many ISP's, go through SWIP and then change their legal name for the registrar so many times.