The contract probably includes a clause that if a clause is found to be unenforceable, then that clause will be deleted, and the remaining clauses will continue in effect. However, do not let yourself be cornered into paying different rates for different traffic content. I would cross out those clauses. Otherwise, they will be able to charge you more for a "spam line" later. If its truly unacceptable, then walk away. I suspect legally, things will go the same way for spam as they did for telemarketing, bulk postal mail, commercial tv and radio. Money talks. Which is why investors built these commercial networks anyway. I suspect that much spam can't be stopped, without a constitutional amendment. MCI can't disconnect phone service from telemarketing companies, MailBoxes Etc can't refuse to deliver bulk mail, and I doubt a major company can disconnect major spammers who send legal messages. Indeed, someone might even suggest some actively target and solicit such companies for service for the tremendous revenue they produce. Eventually, someone will sue over spam, and the issue will be settled. Furthermore, I suspect the "concern" is mostly smoke too. Despite all the claims of spammer problems, I have not seen any significant change in the amount spam I receive over the last 6 months, and I seem to get a lot from the same sources. They don't get shut off, and then pop up somewhere else, as one would expect if anyone was actually doing anything about spam. Complaints about AGIS spewed on this group, but no else has done anything measurable, either. How many ISP's are really going to disconnect spammers? Has anyone actually disconnected a spam customer? How come cyberpromo and savoynet are still connected? They must connect to someone who connects to someone... who has an AUP that is being violated. Why isn't their provider disconnected? I think its pretty clear that it doesn't matter to the network service providers what the contents of your packets are. You will have paid for them no matter what they contain. The customer is paying for, and is therefore entitled to, some amount of bandwidth of whatever garbage they choose to send and receive. Likewise, it doesn't (shouldn't) matter to the phone company whether your leased T1 is carrying internet traffic or voice traffic to a PBX somewhere. It should be the same rate regardless of the content of the traffic. Schemes which change rates depending on the content are not in the interest of the customer. So when you are in the role of customer of your uplink, don't accept them. --Dean ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Plain Aviation, Inc dean@av8.com LAN/WAN/UNIX/NT/TCPIP http://www.av8.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++