That misses the point. They are probably being forced to adapt by a monopoly or a quasi-monopoly or by the fact that transport into Australia is extremely expensive. The situation outside of Australia is quite different. A DS3 from Sydney to LA is worth about 10 DS3s NYC/London. It is not impossible to move people to these price schemes, but in a market with many providers, it is highly risky. A simpler and hence less costly approach for those providers serving mass markets is to stick to flat rate pricing and outlaw high-bandwidth applications that are used by only a small number of end users. Roderick S. Beck Director of EMEA Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com Wireless: 1-212-444-8829. Landline: 33-1-4346-3209. French Wireless: 33-6-14-33-48-97. AOL Messenger: GlobalBandwidth rod.beck@hiberniaatlantic.com rodbeck@erols.com ``Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.'' Albert Einstein.