Faisal is new to the Internet. ;-) ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal@snappytelecom.net> To: "Reza Motamedi" <motamedi@cs.uoregon.edu> Cc: "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 1:31:11 PM Subject: Re: interconnection costs (off list) Ouch... so much for off list .. :( Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support@Snappytelecom.net ----- Original Message -----
From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal@snappytelecom.net> To: "Reza Motamedi" <motamedi@cs.uoregon.edu> Cc: "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 2:28:13 PM Subject: Re: interconnection costs (off list)
Salam Reza,
You are asking an interesting set of questions, it might be easier to answer the over a phone call conversation (at least fro our perspective, being a small ISP/NSP ). I can write to you a lengthy reply, but am not sure if I will be able to convey to you the information properly.
The way you have posed the question, indicates to me that you are taking a particular view of a 'network', which is not the same view I hold. I am not sure if your view is more prevalent or our view as a service provider.
Regardless I think it would make for an interesting conversation. Feel free to call me at your convenience.
Regards.
Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support@Snappytelecom.net
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From: "Reza Motamedi" <motamedi@cs.uoregon.edu> To: "nanog list" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 11:44:06 AM Subject: interconnection costs
Hi NANOG
We are a group of researchers and our focus is on the economy of interconnection in the Internet. My question is mainly about the various costs of an AS establishing a connection with another AS, including the costs charged by the colocation providers. I am familiar with most of the connection options such as public peering on IXP, and private peering through xconnects. My understanding is that in addition to the cost of transit that the smaller AS pays to the larger AS, in the former you pay a monthly fee to establish a link to the switching fabric and then you can connect to as many ASes that are member in the IXP, and in the later you need to pay for as many xconnects that you need to connect to as many ASes that you plan to peer with. Obviously in both cases there is the cost of being in the colocation and renting a rack or whatever. What are the other costs involved? How should the AS reach the colocation center in the first place? I don't think every network can dig a hole an lay cables. Who should they pay to get from one PoP to another? Do ASes have to pay for xconnect to connect their PoP in a data center to the rest of their network?
I think there is no single answer as different businesses may have different pricing models. I hope the discussion can help me understand the whole ecosystem a little bit better.
Best Regards Reza Motamedi (R.M) Graduate Research Fellow Oregon Network Research Group Computer and Information Science University of Oregon